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VERY CONCERNING !!!!! I still believe that we are 99% lied to


How postmortems affect the COVID 19 death rate
The highest German federal authority for infectious diseases, the Robert Koch Institute, has advised against autopsying COVID-19 deceased. Doctors hope that the autopsy will provide important answers. Among other things, the question of whether people actually died on or with the virus.


In Austria, 337 people (as of April 11, 12 p.m.) have died of COVID-19. At least according to the official numbers. However, the actual number could be lower. At least that is what the autopsy results of the Hamburg forensic doctor Klaus Püschel suggest. With his team, he has autopsied all previous COVID-19 deaths in Hamburg. The result: all the deceased were seriously ill before that. And: "There are quite a few in whom the viral disease was of little or no significance for the fatal outcome," says Püschel.

Based on these results, the official figures for the deceased of the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) differ from the Hamburg census. The latter led eight "COVID-19 deaths" in Hamburg on Wednesday, compared to 14 in the official statistics of the RKI. "Our investigation results show that 'ordinary people' need not be afraid or panicked about COVID-19 from a medical point of view" says Püschel.


Died with or from the virus?
In Austria too, the question repeatedly arises as to how many people really died and how many died from the virus. In the statistics of the corona dead, all those who have previously tested positive for COVID-19 appear. Regardless of whether they died directly from the consequences of the viral disease itself or “with the virus” (from another cause of death). This means that even a young accident victim would potentially appear in the statistics - in the unlikely event that they were even tested for the virus.

Austrian oncologist Stefan Wöhrer tells of a patient who died of pancreatic cancer and who tested positive for the virus. Wöhrer is convinced that the man would have succumbed to his cancer even without the virus and that this case is not an isolated case. He will never be certain because the man was not autopsied. Conversely, it could also happen that a person on COVID-19

German federal authority advises against autopsies
Autopsies could remove many ambiguities. As a result of a lack of understanding among many doctors, a recommendation from the German Robert Koch Institute was recently made. In this recommendation, it was stated: "An internal physical examination, autopsies or other aerosol-producing measures should be avoided." This recommendation was withdrawn after objections from the umbrella association of pathologists in Germany. In Austria, however, the Ministry of Social Affairs still recommends pathologists not to perform autopsy routinely.

The Robert Koch Institute's recommendation “I don't understand it either,” says the head of pathology at an Austrian hospital, who does not want to be named. In the case of autopsies of COVID-19 deaths, there could be a risk that infectious liquids would be flushed into the wastewater and the viruses would survive there for weeks, but that was not a real danger in Germany and Austria. In Austria, he says, at least some COVID 19 deaths are autopsied. "But: If I don't have a clinical question, I don't need to do an autopsy."


 
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